Episode 5

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Published on:

10th Apr 2024

Navigating Your 20's: The Power of Female Friendships with Meleena Mohammed

In this special 'Everyday Icon' episode of 'Dare to be Iconic,' Amanda spills the tea with her close friend Meleena to discuss the essence of being an 'everyday icon' and sharing insights into girlhood, navigating early adulthood, and the power of female friendship. The conversation delves into their personal struggles and triumphs in their early 20s, including dealing with self-doubt, the importance of self-love, and the transformative experiences of young adulthood. Amanda and Meleena also reflect on the impact of female friendships and embracing unconditional love from friends.

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Show Notes:

00:00 Welcome to Dare to be Iconic: Introducing Everyday Icons

01:03 Tea Time Begins: Girlhood, Friendships, and Navigating Early 20s

01:49 Defining Iconic: Meleena's Take on Being Your Iconic Self

03:15 The Struggles of Your 20s

04:57 Navigating the Complexities of Yours 20s

23:21 The Power of Female Friendships and Self-Love

28:19 Iconic Insights: Wrapping Up with Meleena's Advice

Transcript
Amanda Paolicelli:

What's up, Radiant Icons, and welcome back to

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Dare to be Iconic, the podcast made

for icons daring to be themselves.

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I'm your host, Amanda Paolicelli,

and today is a very special episode

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because we are joined by one of

my bestest and closest friends in

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the entire world, Meleena, for our

first ever Everyday Icon episode.

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She's been there from the very

beginning, seen me go through it all,

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and I couldn't think of anyone better

to come on for our first tea time

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sesh in this Everyday Icon segment.

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So, I know what you're probably thinking,

Amanda, what is an everyday icon?

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An everyday icon is you, the

Radiant Icon community.

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So I will be bringing on everyday

icons who are daring to be

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themselves in their everyday lives.

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I hope you enjoy our conversation

where we spill all girlhood, female

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friendships, fangirl culture and

honestly how we figure out navigating

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our early 20s because it's a struggle

y'all, but we're doing it together

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So, are you ready radiant icons?

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Your tea time sesh is starting

now Okay, Meleena welcome to

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the Dare to be Iconic podcast!

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Meleena: Thank you so much for having me.

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I'm so excited.

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Amanda Paolicelli: Yes, it's our

girly chat sleepover tea time sesh.

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So Radiant Icons, if you are not watching

this on YouTube, which I dare you to

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go subscribe now, but we have our wine

out, well Meleena has her wine out, I

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have water, I don't know how long we'd

be here if I had a glass of wine, but

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we are in our PJs, we have our stuffed

animals, and we are ready to spill

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all the tea, but before we get into

navigating our early 20s, adulthood,

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girlhood, literally every single thing,

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Meleena: Everything.

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Amanda Paolicelli: I have two

things to ask you Meleena,

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Meleena: yes,

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Amanda Paolicelli: what does iconic

mean to you and how do you dare to

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be iconic in your everyday life?

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Meleena: I think really, it

just means being your most,

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I'm going to use your words.

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I can't help it.

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Your most iconic self, really.

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And like just being true to yourself

and, um, obviously like not trying

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to change who you are for any sort

of thing, don't matter the situation.

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And I guess like sticking to your guns

and like holding that confidence that

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you know that you have and acting with

confidence because, You just have to

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trust yourself with what you're doing.

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That's all you can do.

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Like, there's no one telling you

what to do when you become an adult.

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So, you just have to use your own,

your own guidance, your own discretion,

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and believe in yourself, really.

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I think that's what being iconic is.

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Acting with, with confidence.

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Yeah.

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Amanda Paolicelli: I love that.

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You really hit the nail on the

head with that, that trust word.

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Cause that word keeps popping up

every single minute of the day for me.

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Um, if you guys don't know my word for

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Meleena: good word, a good word,

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Amanda Paolicelli: a good word, but

a very hard concept to learn for me.

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I don't know about you, Meleena

but like, Oh my goodness, girl.

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When I tell you, trust has not popped

up more in my life than in:

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And it's only like March.

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Literally, it's March

when we're recording this.

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Meleena: Yeah.

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Amanda Paolicelli: Can you believe that?

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Yeah.

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Like, I, maybe I'm psychic.

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I have no idea.

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But Meleena how do you dare to

be iconic in your everyday life?

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Meleena: Life these days is a

lot different for me than what

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it was like two months ago.

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So these days, it's more like, um, it's

a lot of, I go through like a lot of

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self doubt and rethinking because having

just graduated, there's so much unknown.

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Like I said, it feels like I'm

an actual adult now because now I

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don't know what's going to happen.

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I don't have a plan right now.

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So I guess just acting as iconic as I

can every day would be with the self

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love and self care that I'm having

to journey through now because I have

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so much time where I can actually

focus on that and focus on myself.

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So taking care of myself, my mental

health, my physical health, I think is

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how I'm able to act iconically because

now I'm putting me first, you know.

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Amanda Paolicelli: Yes, you're

on that choose yourself journey!

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Meleena: Yes, exactly.

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Amanda Paolicelli: Oh, I love the choose

you journey, it's like literally the best.

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I agree.

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Such a good point.

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Now, congratulations, by

the way, on graduating.

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That's such a big accomplishment.

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I'm so proud of you.

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Meleena: Um,

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Amanda Paolicelli: if you guys don't

know, Meleena is like the mastermind, like

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the creative eye behind every photo you

see on the Dare to be Iconic website, my

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podcast cover art, like, that is Meleena.

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And I really wouldn't be where I am today

without her, like, love and support.

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You're like one of my closest friends.

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And

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Meleena: I feel the same way.

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I'm so flattered also.

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Thank you.

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Amanda Paolicelli: Of course.

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Oh my god.

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Not us already doing our little love fest.

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So early Hey, it wouldn't be

It wouldn't be us if one of us

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isn't crying yet Um, that's when

you know, it's real friendship.

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Yeah,

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Meleena: for real

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Amanda Paolicelli: one thing Meleena

is that now as a recent, you know

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college graduate You're navigating

adulthood for the first time in

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your life, like, like me as well.

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I mean, I am a little bit older than you.

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Not by much.

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Okay, not by much.

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Meleena: But We're basically the same age.

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Amanda Paolicelli: Basically.

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Honestly, everyone's the same age.

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Meleena: 20 something

year old teenage girls.

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Amanda Paolicelli: Yeah, literally,

I feel like a teenage girl.

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But like, the point where I'm trying

to get at here, right, is like,

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we feel like we're teenage girls.

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Because for the first time in our lives,

there's no one telling us what to do.

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And you had sent me this TikTok earlier

that really spoke to like, where we

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are as young adults in our early 20s.

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We're figuring it out for the first

time, and yeah, it's like fun figuring it

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out, but it's also really, really hard.

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Meleena: It is.

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So like,

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Amanda Paolicelli: Let's

just dive into that, right?

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Like, we're in this early life crisis.

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Yes!

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Like, we don't know what is going

on, but then we have people who are

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older than us being like, Oh, like,

it's okay, you're gonna figure it out,

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like, I don't need that right now.

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I need someone to literally hold my hand

and be like, it is going to be okay.

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You are going to figure it out.

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Meleena: I know it's hard to validate

things and be like, I know it's hard.

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Amanda Paolicelli: Yes.

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And I think what's the crazy thing about

it is that we're all just like young 20

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year old teenage girls just trying to

be like adult women in this world that

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keeps telling us who we should be and.

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How we should act like.

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So, one thing for you Meleena that

I wanted to ask is, How do you apply

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this concept of self love and self

care while we're in this stage of

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really figuring out who we are when

we really don't know where to begin?

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Meleena: Yeah, yeah, that's hard.

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It's also been like I said a journey

myself that I'm having to learn about

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myself learn how to Like just be okay

with myself and also my thoughts.

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So it takes a lot of time but

also you have to be just kind to

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yourself and allow you to yourself

to take those steps and Understand

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that it's going to get time before

things are are good and figured out.

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So I think the most important

part for doing that is being,

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being kind to yourself.

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Amanda Paolicelli: Girl, from

your lips to my ears, but my brain

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does not comprehend it because

the amount of times, I know it's

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Meleena: easy to say harder.

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Yeah.

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It's so

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Amanda Paolicelli: much

easier said than done.

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Like we can be like, so

we're blue in the face.

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Oh, be kinder to ourselves.

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Give ourselves grace.

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That is the hardest thing ever.

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Like, I don't know about you, but I

know I am definitely my hardest critic.

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Like, I beat myself up

so hardcore, you know?

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Like, it's so bad.

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Meleena: I'm a perfectionist

also, but I've never been

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the nicest person to myself.

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I think I am getting better about

it, but that's the other thing.

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Like, it's, like, everything

else is gonna take time to-

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Amanda Paolicelli: Exactly.

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Meleena: Adapt and change and,

you know, Become, like, grow

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into a better person, basically.

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Because, you know, as they say, you're

the one person that you're going

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to be with the rest of your life.

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You know, it's just you, yourself.

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Yeah!

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It takes time.

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Amanda Paolicelli: It does take time.

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And I think what's so interesting about

it, right, is we live in, like, a day in

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age where we have all these amazing like

female role models like Olivia Rodrigo.

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I know you and I love Olivia.

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We love her so much.

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Meleena: An icon, if you will.

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Amanda Paolicelli: She really

is an icon, to be honest.

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Oh my goodness.

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One thing I keep going back on like

with this conversation, right, We're

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talking about the topic of really

navigating our early 20s and kind of

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just like figuring it out and like not

adhering to the standards that society

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has for us, like how we should act,

how we should look, so on and so forth.

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And Olivia is such an icon at that, right?

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Because we have all American B.

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That scream that Olivia has in the

middle of All American Bee, I have

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never felt anything more in my life.

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Because that's every day in your

20s, is internally screaming and

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being like, What are you doing?

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What is going on?

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Meleena: Hmm,

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Amanda Paolicelli: So, one thing I wanted

to really dive into with that what would

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you say to your younger self, at the

point that you are right now when it comes

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to figuring it out and being an adult.

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Meleena: Yeah, I've actually

been, there's times where I've

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thought about it, uh, recently.

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Like, one thing, like, just off the

bat is, like, I've always had, like,

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self image, like, body issues because

I've always been, I guess, on the

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heavier side, but seeing older pictures

of what I looked like before, I'm

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like, I was actually kind of skinny.

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I was still thick, but, you know,

like, kind of skinny and overweight.

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No, I get exactly what

you're talking about.

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Like, our minds can be skinny.

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I'm imagining if my younger self

saw me today, they'd be like,

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oh my god, what happened to you?

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Amanda Paolicelli: I was thinking

about that actually the other

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day as well, where I'm like, What

would Amanda two years ago, right?

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Like, looking back, what would

she think of her life now?

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And then me looking back at old photos,

like, specifically for me, If you have

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followed the Dare to be Iconic blog,

Radiant Icons, 19 is an age that I

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mention multiple times because it's

a very traumatic time in my life.

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Meleena: 19 is a big age for me too.

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I don't know what to do about that.

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Amanda Paolicelli: Really?

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Is it?

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Yeah.

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Wow.

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Meleena: No, that's when I broke up with

my ex and got with my current boyfriend.

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But that, that was a whole thing.

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Amanda Paolicelli: Oh my god.

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Why is it at 19 we always

have the shitty boyfriend?

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Meleena: I don't know.

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I mean, I was able to find my current

boyfriend, so I'm good, but I guess 19, 19

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was that like turning a leaf over for me.

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Amanda Paolicelli: Okay, wait, yes.

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I think you're on to something.

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Meleena: And also, Olivia Rodrigo,

speaking of, she talks about

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being 19, like, in her last

album, like, specifically 19.

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Amanda Paolicelli: Did you

just, like, crack the code?

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Meleena: That's how old she was.

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Oh my god, in Adele 19, her first album.

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Amanda Paolicelli: Stop.

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Meleena.

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Meleena: Something about 19.

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Yeah.

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That's so interesting.

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Amanda Paolicelli: For me, I was

so excited to turn 19 because

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it was my golden birthday.

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Because National Amanda

Day is December 19th.

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Meleena: That's true.

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Yeah.

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Amanda Paolicelli: So I was like, ooh, 19.

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Like, it's gonna be like the best year.

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It was the most traumatic year of my life.

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Meleena: Even like the whole

thing, like, was there anything

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at the beginning or end that

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Amanda Paolicelli: To be honest with

you, I look back at 19, and all I can

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think about is my first ex boyfriend.

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And the pain that I had, and even though

that relationship was two months, that

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two month traumatic relationship still

follows me now, seven years later.

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Like, that's all that I remember 19 being.

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Like, yes, did I meet my Last ex

boyfriend as the one we know with

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the letter in the box at that time.

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Yes But to be honest all of

19 was healing from the trauma

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that my first ex left on me.

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Meleena: Wow

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Amanda Paolicelli: so Yeah, I don't

know actually that's kind of crazy.

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Meleena: I mean the same thing

for me because i'd broken up with

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my ex Like soon after I turned 19

actually, I was processing a whole

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lot and I also moved out that year.

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Amanda Paolicelli: That's right.

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You had a really big year at 19.

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Meleena: That's true.

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I forget about that.

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I also constantly forget how old I am,

though, so I guess that makes sense.

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Amanda Paolicelli: That's also so true.

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You know, I thought my sister

was 11 for about 3 years.

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Cause she just like never

grew up in my eyes, you know?

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Yeah.

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So I guess maybe that speaks to

like where we are mentally, right?

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Like, for a while, I feel like

maybe my growth was all stuck

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in me being 19 because of all

the trauma that I had with it.

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Meleena: Yeah, probably.

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Amanda Paolicelli: Because I really

didn't start living my life till 24.

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Like, I know that was only last year,

but 24 was like the best year of my life.

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Meleena: It takes time.

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You were going from also a relationship

like that to a new one right away.

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It's hard not to lose

yourself in the process.

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So it makes sense that you are

just having come out of it and now

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taking the time to, you know, grow

and learn about yourself also.

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It makes sense.

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Amanda Paolicelli: Do you think

you also experienced that?

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Meleena: I feel like 19 in that year

and even some of 20, I was still kind of

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like trying to find myself, like I was

a bit lost, um, but I feel like now I'm

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much more realized in who I am and this

relationship is so much different than my

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previous one, so I feel like I've still

been able to retain my like identity

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and sense of self and my independence,

which is something in my first

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relationship, also my first relationship

that I didn't know was so important.

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So I think having that hindsight and

everything I learned, even though

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it was, Very sucky relationship.

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It was important and necessary for me.

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I think, unfortunately, I'm one of those,

or at least I was, someone who needed

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to experience and learn the hard way.

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Because I had so many people telling

me, like, this isn't right, you know,

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you don't deserve this, blah, blah,

blah, but I had to learn the hard way.

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Amanda Paolicelli: You had to

see it for yourself though.

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No, I 1000 percent understand

where you're coming from with that.

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Like, as we all know, well, you

know what, I'm just going to spill

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the tea about it because why not?

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This is tea time, right?

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You might want to pour another glass

of wine Meleena I had so many people

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tell me, specifically my mother

it's always, it's always my lovely

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mother, telling me that both my ex

boyfriends she was not a fan of, at all.

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She did not like them from the get go.

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Meleena: Something about, they do

have their intuition in check, though.

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And I hate that.

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Amanda Paolicelli: I hate it too.

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You know my therapist would always

tell me, so I would be in my

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therapy appointment, And I would be

telling her about my life, right?

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And I would be like, oh, my dad

said this and my mom said this.

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They were always right.

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And she goes, don't tell them that

because they'll get a big ego.

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But maybe you need to listen to

your, your parents because you

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just want to fix your problem.

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Because you want to feel

good about yourself.

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That's literally what she told me.

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She said, sometimes you create this

chaos for yourself because you want

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to fix the problems and then pat

yourself on the back when you've

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done a good job in cleaning them up.

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And I said, oh, wow.

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I said, wow, call me out.

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No, I love her.

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But she called me out.

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She called me out.

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Meleena: Sometimes you need to hear that.

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Sometimes you need that tough love.

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Oh no,

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Amanda Paolicelli: she definitely

calls me out every single time.

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She goes, Amanda, what are you doing?

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What are you doing?

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I was like, oh, thank you so much.

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I see you.

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No, she literally said, I see you.

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Stop.

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She said, listen to your parents.

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Maybe listen to your gut

too while you're at it.

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Because I knew that my first

ex was not the one for me.

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I knew it.

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But I stayed because I

was scared of being alone.

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Because I didn't know who I

was, and I just wanted someone.

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Meleena: I feel that.

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You know?

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Honestly, I do.

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No, it's, it's also such a hard time.

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Being a teenage girl is never easy and

I don't think it ever will be but it's

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so easy to feel vulnerable and alone

and To feel wanted also like it's just

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naturally can't help it I I had I don't

consider him my first boyfriend But I

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did have a boyfriend that was like I

think a month or two long and I didn't

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really like him Ended up boyfriend

and girlfriend and I ended up breaking

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up with him after I realized like

I don't really like you like that.

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Amanda Paolicelli: Go you.

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Meleena: I wonder what it's like

to have a crush, because at that

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point I never really liked anyone.

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Amanda Paolicelli: Really?

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Yeah.

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Oh, girl.

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I'll give you a masterclass.

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I'm really good at crushes, especially

celebrity crushes, if we can't tell.

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Meleena: Oh, celebrity ones,

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Amanda Paolicelli: oh, yeah, that's right.

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You're a K pop girl, yo.

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Well, how can I forget?

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Meleena: Yes, ma'am.

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My boys.

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Amanda Paolicelli: Which

leads me to girlhood.

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Meleena: I'm feeling right now.

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Amanda Paolicelli: You

Oh my gosh, girl, please.

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We're gonna talk about the boys.

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We're talking about One Direction for me.

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One Direction ever comes

back, I will literally drain

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my whole entire life savings.

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Like, I literally don't care.

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Meleena: I feel that me, me and

BTS are gonna meet in:

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they have their reunion tour.

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You should,

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Amanda Paolicelli: Meleena, I'm gonna

be so happy for you when that happens.

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, you deserve it more than anyone

I've ever known in my entire life.

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Like, you deserve to meet them.

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Meleena: Thank you.

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Amanda Paolicelli: Like, but like,

that brings me to girlhood, right?

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Meleena: Yes.

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Amanda Paolicelli: I have this theory.

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Because as we all know, Radiant

Icons, I love Formula One so much.

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No one would have ever suspected

it to be honest with you.

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Meleena: I really didn't.

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I remember when you told me too.

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I was like, wow, really?

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Amanda Paolicelli: You were like,

oh, what has she gotten herself into?

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The show did it.

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Yeah, it did.

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It really did.

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I started because of DTS.

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And when you start watching it,

Meleena, because you should, you

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will feel the same exact way as I do.

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And I will be a very happy girl.

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Meleena: Downward spiral.

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Amanda Paolicelli: It will.

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So where I was going with

this is I have a theory.

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I am convinced that F1 girlies

now, we're 1D girls in the past.

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Meleena: I actually

think you might be right.

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Amanda Paolicelli: That's what I'm saying.

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I have had this theory for so long.

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I just want to let you know.

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Meleena: I mean, it makes

sense, because like, Right?

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Fandom, fandom culture is, as

we know, something very unique,

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but not everyone experiences,

which is, it baffles my brain.

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Like, I feel like everybody

Right, that's what I'm saying,

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but I think it's actually like

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Amanda Paolicelli: a, what is it, like an

impactful part of the girlhood experience.

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Like it just gives you community.

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Meleena: I think a huge part of the fandom

culture is having that community because

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all of you just have like shared interests

and you can talk about it and then it,

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you know can blossom into something else.

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Amanda Paolicelli: And I think it's at

such a pivotal age in our lives, right?

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Because when I think back of it, right?

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One Direction came out when

I was in 7th to 8th grade.

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And that's like, tween years, right?

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Yeah, that sounds about right.

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We want that sense of community.

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We want to feel like we belong.

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But we also want something to like,

Big fan of delusion over here.

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Meleena: I just obsess over, it's fun.

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Amanda Paolicelli: We want

something to obsess over.

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We want something to have our brains just

like have that little piece of escapism.

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Right.

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You want to be living in Delulu.

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I didn't know what Delulu was back then.

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I do now, but I definitely was living

in delusion my whole entire life.

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But I think One Direction started right

when I was in seventh to eighth grade.

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And that is such a pivotal time where

you're figuring out who you are.

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All these changes are

going on in your body.

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And you're like, what

the heck is going on?

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Like, what am I doing?

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And then now, right?

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The new wave of female F1 fans-

they're all in majority of them.

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I shouldn't say all are in their

early twenties, early twenties.

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You have the key you're

unlocking it to adulthood.

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Mm hmm, and you're in that same as you

were when you were a tween Figuring out

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this new phase of your life this new

chapter of your life You know sense of

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belonging you want a sense of community,

you want something where you can How

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that escapes you, that makes you excited,

where you can connect with others.

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Meleena: That just made me think

of something else, and we were

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talking about it, another time,

was the idea of a third location.

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So a third location is somewhere you go to

that's not work or your home, basically.

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Um, so it's somewhere you can go to de

stress, but it's the most, important

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part of it is also that community.

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So it's like almost a regular

place where you can go to relax but

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also see people that you might see

like every time that you go there.

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For example, like a library is what

happens to be the third place for

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a lot of people these days because

just because of the crazy busy life

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that Everyone seems to be living.

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For me, it's also hard because

I work remotely and at home.

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So my first and second

place are the same place.

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So now my third place has

become like the movies.

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I go to the movies.

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I really

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Amanda Paolicelli: do love the movies.

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Every time I text you, you're like,

Oh, I'm sorry about the movies.

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Meleena: Yep.

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But a third place is, is somewhere

you can go that's not home or

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work and where you can meet people

and foster relationships, shared

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interests, and just do your own thing.

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Amanda Paolicelli: Do you think

now the third place would be

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social media for a lot of people?

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Meleena: Exactly.

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That's what I was getting at.

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Yeah.

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So social media and the internet has

become a third, the third location

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for Almost, like all of us, especially

younger generations, um, Millennials,

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Gen Zs, and Gen Alpha, we're not even

gonna talk about Gen Alpha, I feel so

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bad, uh, they're chronically online,

but anyways, um, yeah, social media and

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the internet has been the third place

for so many of us, and I know TikTok is

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probably a big one for me, personally.

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TikTok and then Twitter,

like right underneath that.

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Amanda Paolicelli: Oh, I can't do Twitter.

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Meleena: Yeah, that's another, tying into

the fandoms, like that's where they find,

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a lot of people find their community

because it's become like that third place.

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Amanda Paolicelli: Why are we geniuses?

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I just have to say, why are we geniuses?

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No, you're a thousand percent right.

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I feel like specifically

for the F1 community, right?

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Obviously TikTok, like duh, but then

I also feel like, and this one is a

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surprising one, but LinkedIn motorsports

community and LinkedIn is popping.

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The girlies are on LinkedIn

creating F1 content.

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Period.

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Right?

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Who would have thought?

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I love it.

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That's actually pretty

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Meleena: cool.

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Because it's like, it is a place for

networking, more so professional, but

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it's really cool that people can go there

to find people with similar interests.

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Like, I feel like what Twitter is

almost like or what you, it used to

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Amanda Paolicelli: be.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Twitter, Twitter is an interesting

one now, but LinkedIn, honestly, the

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more I've been posting on LinkedIn,

Meleena, the more I've realized.

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How, like, how good of a

platform it actually is.

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It's such a vibe.

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Because people are just, at least

maybe the girls our age that are on

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there, like, we all just, like, want

to make our dreams come true, and we

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all just want to support each other.

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That's true.

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I do see a lot of

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Meleena: people on LinkedIn

whenever I do go on.

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Yeah.

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And that's nice.

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I feel like, Most of the time it's

fake, the support, because they're

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just like trying to post and be

as active on there as possible.

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But it's still a much nicer alternative

than You know, hate and trolling, so.

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Amanda Paolicelli: So we

talked about girlhood.

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We talked about figuring out shitty

relationships, navigating our 20s.

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But now let's talk about the

power of female friendships.

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Now, I don't know about you, but I

genuinely feel like at this stage in

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my life, my female friendships have

been the most fulfilling relationships

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I've ever had in my life so far.

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Meleena: Really?

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Amanda Paolicelli: Yeah, I

feel like I learned so much

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from my group of girlfriends.

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Meleena: That's true, I do feel that too.

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And it's interesting to see as you're,

like, maybe older, friendships change

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and grow as you both grow older.

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And like, life is changing,

circumstances are changing.

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But it's really interesting to see

how things will hold you together.

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And I think, even if it's long distance,

You know, if, if both sides are, are

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actively trying and communicating, it's,

it can be so, so fulfilling and it's

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so important, those female friendships.

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Amanda Paolicelli: It's really

like the girl groups, like the

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girlfriends that you have, whether

they're new or old, that really get

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you through your hardest moments.

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Like, when I went through my first,

my, well, I guess both breakups, right?

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Like, the amount of outpouring love

and support that I had from everyone.

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Like, I remember you showing up

to, I was working at a theme park

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here in Orlando as a performer,

and like, I remember you showing

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up and how much that made my night.

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Meleena: Aww.

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Amanda Paolicelli: Like, it

was such a hard time for me.

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I didn't know what was going on.

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Meleena: I remember.

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I remember that.

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Amanda Paolicelli: And

like, you showed up.

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I think you were trying to

surprise me, but then you were

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like, I need your set time.

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So please, please.

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Yeah.

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But you know, like, it's

just crazy things like that.

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Or like, even throughout Meleena

like, our friendship, which is

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something I'm so grateful for,

is how you've always shown up.

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Don't make me cry, Meleena I'm gonna cry.

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You always make me cry.

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But like, every time I think of our

friendship, I think of how you've

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always been there for me through

thick and thin, and how you've always

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supported me through everything.

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And it's friendships like

yours that remind me that.

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No matter how I feel, whether I'm like

on top of the world or I'm like, really?

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No.

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I'm gonna cry God depress

and all that, not us tear up.

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If you're not watching the YouTube

version, you are really missing

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out on the little glimpse of tears

that are showing up in our eyes.

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Meleena: Yep.

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Amanda Paolicelli: Your girlfriends

really can get you through anything and

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that shows you who your true friends are.

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Meleena: I feel that so heavily.

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They're just like necessary I mean,

we're social creatures and all that but

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yeah even friendships like they really

those real friends will be there for you

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No matter what and it's it's so hard,

especially with something like a breakup

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Especially your first one or a bad one

Like you just need your friends around

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you to make that time easier and for

them, someone to lean on during that time.

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And I remember also my breakup, how

important it was to have my friends around

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me, not just to distract me, but, you

know, show me that, that I'll be okay,

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like things are just going to be okay.

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I know, they're invaluable

and they really are.

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I know we're gonna stay

friends for, for like ever.

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I don't see us ever.

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Duh.

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You better not leave separate way.

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I'm gonna

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find you now.

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Exactly.

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Amanda Paolicelli: you're stuck with me now.

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Meleena forever and always.

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Meleena: We're gonna grow into

old aunties like rich aunties.

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Amanda Paolicelli: Duh.

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You know it.

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Rich aunties girl.

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I hope so.

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We're trying, okay?

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We're trying so hard for the rich auntie

life, but not to be too sappy, but

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really like The adoration that I have

for my friends and the love I have for

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them And the way they have reciprocated

it back has really proven to me that

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the love I give out in the world Is

being received and that I do deserve

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to receive it back and I think that was

always something That I struggled with

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especially in my first two relationships.

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I don't know why i'm saying first two I've

only dated two boys in my entire life,

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but like, you know my two relationships.

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I struggled with that concept right

of You Feeling like I was enough,

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feeling like, do I deserve to be loved?

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And I think through my female

friendships and lots of therapy, I

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realize that I do deserve love and

that it is possible for me to be

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loved and accepted for who I am fully.

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Meleena: Exactly.

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Yeah, you bring up such a good point

because you know, we have our family

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and then we have the friends, which

is, you know, like our chosen family.

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So getting that validation and

that love from our friends is

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what, like our first experience of.

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Yeah.

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another type of love

that's not just familial.

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So I think it's so, so important the type

of, the kind of friends that you have.

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If you have good friends, you're

just so blessed because that's

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a love unlike any other kind.

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Like they're going to

love you unconditionally.

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Amanda Paolicelli: Yes.

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That's the word we've been looking for

this entire time was unconditional love.

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Meleena: Yes.

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Unconditionally.

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And those are, the truest friends

that you'll have, that they'll stick

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with you through thick and thin.

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Amanda Paolicelli: Meleena, before we wrap

up our tea time sesh, I was wondering if

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you have any iconic insights that you want

to leave with the Radiant Icon community

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before we finish spilling all the tea.

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Meleena: One of the things I lacked in

really growing up and that I could have

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used more was love for myself and also

believing in myself like trusting myself

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like how we talked about earlier trust.

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I think there's too many times where

I didn't believe or listen to myself.

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I needed to listen to my gut and trust

my instincts and I would brush aside a

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lot of things that I felt Deep down or

like things that I knew were wrong or

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weren't right or I should be doing This or

that and I would kind of just ignore it.

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I would tell myself and I would tell

other people to really listen to yourself.

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Like, trust your gut.

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Cause you're, you know what's up, like,

even if you can't see it right then

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and there, if you have a feeling, if

you have a feeling about something,

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really just listen to yourself.

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Amanda Paolicelli: All right,

Radiant Icons, that is our

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tea time sesh for today.

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I hope you enjoyed our first

episode in the Everyday Icon

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segment, featuring my bestest

friend in the entire world, Meleena.

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Meleena, thank you again for sharing

your time and spilling all the tea with

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myself and the Radiant Icon community.

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If you liked today's episode, I dare

you to go follow me on Instagram and

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connect with me on LinkedIn, as well

as checking out Meleena's social pages,

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which are linked in the show notes below.

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All right, radiant icons.

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Remember, dare to be iconic

and I will see you next time.

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Bye.

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Dare To Be Iconic
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Welcome to "Dare To Be Iconic," the podcast made for icons daring to be themselves. Hosted by your favorite icon, Amanda Paolicelli, "Dare To Be Iconic" is not just another self-help podcast—it's your weekly tea time session where Amanda spills all the tea on topics like self-confidence, self-improvement, healing, and personal growth.

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