Nailed It: Owning Your Power with Katie Hornsby

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What's up, Radiant Icons and welcome back to

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Dare to Be Iconic, the podcast made

for icons daring to be themselves.

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I'm your host, Amanda Paolicelli,

and for today's Tea Time sesh, we

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are joined by a very special everyday

icon, my girl Katie from Race Tips.

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As you guys know, Katie is one of my

closest friends and a long standing

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partner of Dare to Be Iconic.

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So it has been a long overdue

to have this Tea time sesh and

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you know Katie and I can yap.

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We can spill the tea.

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So you are definitely

in for a treat today.

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But before I get into the piping

hot tea that we will be spilling

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on today's tea time sesh.

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Make sure to secure your spot

for Dare to Be Icon's second

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Masterclass, daring to be confident,

on April 19th at 1:00 PM Eastern.

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Tickets, and all the information can

be found in the show notes below.

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Now let's get to the piping hot

tea for today's tea time sesh.

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Katie and I are talking about confidence,

resiliency, self-love, pivoting, how

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you can be your own best friend, because

that honestly is the longest relationship

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you'll ever be in in your life.

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So you gotta learn how to be your own best

friend, and we spill the tea on that and

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so much more in today's tea time sesh.

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I am so excited.

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So are you ready?

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Radiant icons because your

tee time sesh is starting now.

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Katie, it's been a long time coming.

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Welcome to Dare To Be Iconic.

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Katie Hornsby: Thank you.

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So happy to be here.

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I feel like we like record a

podcast every time we talk.

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Amanda Paolicelli: No, absolutely.

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Absolutely.

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We're just, we've progressed, you

know, we've now made it so people

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can hear our conversations, which

I don't know if that's gonna end

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up in our favor, but you know what?

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We will see.

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We will see.

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So Katie, we are gonna get into

all the iconicness that you do a

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little bit later on into our tea

time ses, but we're gonna start with

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some dare to be iconic essentials.

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So what does the word iconic mean

to you and how do you dare to

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be iconic in your everyday life?

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Katie Hornsby: Okay, so it's

so funny 'cause you and I say

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iconic all the time idea and like

myself idea, do I catch myself?

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Like leaving comments on Instagrams

like you do like so iconic and I'm

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like, oh my god, Amanda would be proud.

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Amanda Paolicelli: Oh my God, that's the

best compliment I could ever hear my life.

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Katie Hornsby: But when I like

really sat with myself Yeah.

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And thought about it to me, iconic.

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It's kind of a combination

of, it's timeless.

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Mm-hmm.

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It's bold, it's revolutionary.

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But it is also like classic

and Oh, I love that.

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Amanda Paolicelli: Revolutionary.

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Okay.

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Revolutionary.

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Yeah, revolutionary.

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Katie Hornsby: I love that.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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And then let's think.

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Okay, so being iconic in

my everyday life and war in

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everyone's everyday life, exactly.

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I think is truly just being

exactly who you are and not giving.

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A care about what anyone else thinks

about you, and just walking with that

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confidence in life because yeah, if

you have the confidence, you're iconic.

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Amanda Paolicelli: Exactly.

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Point blank in period, Katie.

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Okay.

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Slay.

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I couldn't say it better myself.

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It's like, almost like daring to be

yourself, you know, like Exactly.

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Sounds so familiar.

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So for the radiant icons who don't know,

Katie and I are very, very close friends

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and we bonded over our love for F1.

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Katie is the founder of Race Tips.

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Um, race Tips is like literally the

most iconic brand out there, fast and

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easy manicures for the fast car fans.

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And so I think both of us being

small business owners, it's sometimes

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hard, or at least I think so in this

concept of trusting that you are

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exactly where you are meant to be.

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And so I wanted to kind of ask you

how has trusting that concept, right,

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kind , helped guide you through the

tough moments, whether it's you being

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a female entrepreneur or just being

Katie living her most iconic life.

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Katie Hornsby: Okay.

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So when it comes to trusting and like

knowing that you're exactly where you

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need to be, I'll kind of talk about it

maybe a little bit more in my personal

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life first and then kind of, yeah,

get it back to the, the entrepreneur

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in me, but point, blank and, period.

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I think it's really accepting that

everything happens for a reason and

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that there's a reason you are in

the place that you are right now.

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Amanda Paolicelli: Mm-hmm.

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Katie Hornsby: And I think that's

something I've accepted and then I've had

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to accept many times throughout my life.

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I think that's something

that you will face.

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Your whole entire life, and you never

quite know when you might be faced

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with like, oh, I gotta gotta remind

myself, like, we're here for a reason.

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It's gonna be okay.

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And I think the other part of it

too is like when maybe something

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doesn't go right or maybe you feel

lost or life is just hard right now.

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It's reminding yourself of all the

good things that are in your life.

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Amanda Paolicelli: Yeah.

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That's so important.

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Yes,

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Katie Hornsby: exactly.

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Like I have a roof over my head.

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I have loving friends.

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I have food in the refrigerator.

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I have a bed to sleep in.

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But then also like.

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I have a killer business.

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I have a passion for this.

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And so reminding yourself of all the,

all the positive things and all the

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good things you have going for yourself.

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And then I think like the other

big part of it is knowing that you

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can change direction at any time.

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Yes.

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And I think a lot of people Yes,

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Amanda Paolicelli: absolutely.

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Katie Hornsby: Absolutely.

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Yes, exactly.

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And I think a lot of people forget that.

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We are in control of our lives and we

are the universe perceiving itself.

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If you're unhappy, you can

change that is might be.

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Exactly, yeah, and then it, it

could be moving to a new place.

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It could be saying goodbye to a

certain friend, changing careers.

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Maybe it's like actually just

making more time for your hobbies,

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or it's as simple as giving

yourself time to sit with yourself.

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I know we're probably gonna

talk about Katy Nights later,

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but like having yourself,

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Amanda Paolicelli: obviously,

I stole that from you, duh.

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Katie Hornsby: Yeah.

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Having yourself a Katy night and I think

in the lens of being an entrepreneur,

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being a small business owner, um,

you know, it's okay to make mistakes.

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It's okay to, I always

say like, fail fast.

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Uh, and learn and then pivot.

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And I think the whole point of being

an entrepreneur, like how one calls

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themselves as an entrepreneur is being

able to iterate and figuring out, you

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know, taking time, analyzing what's

going right, what's going wrong, what

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can I improve on, what are my strengths,

opportunities, uh, and then what can

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I do to improve and iterate on that?

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And if it doesn't work.

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That's okay.

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That's what iterating is,

is you're trying something.

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If it doesn't work, you pivot.

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You try something new.

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And as you do that in life,

you also do that in business.

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And so Exactly.

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Having kind of that mindset of

like, we're literally just iterating

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all the time and nothing's wrong.

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Amanda Paolicelli: No, like literally,

like I had a friend tell me that her key

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word in entrepreneurship is pivoting.

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Like you have to be

comfortable with pivoting.

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You are going to fail big.

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You're going to fail

fast, like you said, like.

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But you need to know

when it's time to pivot.

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You need to be able to have that

self-reflection, and I think that goes

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back to what you had mentioned, which

is being in control of your own destiny.

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So what are some steps that you

took to make sure you were on

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the right path for yourself?

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Katie Hornsby: I think I knew

I was in control of my own

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destiny before I knew I was.

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And like, okay, slay.

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I can explain that.

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Um, okay.

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Slay.

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I love that.

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But the, but the idea of

like subconsciously, like

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I knew I was in charge.

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Amanda Paolicelli: Mm-hmm.

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But

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Katie Hornsby: I didn't necessarily

bring that into consciousness until

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I think I got older and I think that

is probably what happens with a lot

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of us is yeah, if you think back,

like in high school and before that,

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like we're living with our parents.

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There's kind of still guiding maybe

where we're going or how, you know,

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I don't know how we're behaving

or what we're allowed to do and

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maybe what we're not allowed to do.

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And then you get to college and

there's so many external Yes.

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Oh my gosh.

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Influences.

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So glad you mentioned that.

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Yes,

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Amanda Paolicelli: yes.

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Absolutely.

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Katie Hornsby: Yeah.

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Whether it's new friends, whether it's

you're living in a new place, you're

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finding new hobbies, maybe you're.

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Drinking for the first time, or Yeah,

maybe you're in relationships for the

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Amanda Paolicelli: first time,

like you weren't allowed to date.

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Like all these things, you know?

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Mm-hmm.

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Katie Hornsby: And I think like it can

be scary because it's like, oh my God,

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you have all this freedom all at once.

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And you feel that then like when,

whether it's you, you're graduating from

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college or maybe you're moving away from

home, whatever your journey is like.

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Then you're like, oh my God, I now am.

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I always call it, I'm a big girl now.

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Like I have to find, no, like literally

have to find like a big girl job.

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Oh my God.

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I know.

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And a big girl apartment and, mm-hmm.

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Part of it too is like, oh my

gosh, I can be and choose and

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do whatever I wanna do now.

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Like, okay, now I'm like, really?

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It's me.

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I've got it.

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I can decide.

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Amanda Paolicelli: Like I really

am the adult in the room now.

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And that's like so

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Katie Hornsby: scary.

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Yeah, it's so scary.

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And

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also again, like, so now we're here and

we're like, I can't believe how many

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years I'm actually out of college now.

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It doesn't.

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Feel real.

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I feel like I should be

allowed to be this old.

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Amanda Paolicelli: No.

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Yeah, no.

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Retweet on that.

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Yes, retweet on that.

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Sometimes I still think I'm 19,

but you know, that's another story.

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Katie Hornsby: Yeah.

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I, I said to you earlier, this is a

tangent, but I said to you a couple weeks

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ago when George Russell posted, he's

like 27, you know, oh my God, I know.

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Happy Birthday post.

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And I was like, I was like, oh my God.

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I know I'm about to be 27.

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Like George Russell and I are the same

age and like I know it, it's like such

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Amanda Paolicelli: a mind,

like it's a mind bogle

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Katie Hornsby: yeah.

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So I, and then I don't know, I'll

give kind of back maybe to answering.

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I know you're all good.

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Um, but I think.

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Once you realize that you have control

of your life, it's really thinking about

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what you want your life to look like.

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Mm-hmm.

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Um, and I think in the past year or

so, a couple of my friends and I have

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had this conversation about, um, you

know, feeling lost or not knowing what

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yes they want or where they're going.

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And I feel like I am, uh,

I've always been like a little

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ahead of the curve and so like.

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I've like, oh yeah.

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Well I was there a a little bit.

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A little bit ago.

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Yeah.

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And lemme tell you how

I got out of it exactly.

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And it's something I'm still

working on now because it's not an

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easy thing to do, but listing out

all the things I want in my life.

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And I'm not talking

about like harsh goals.

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I am talking about the littlest

things to the biggest things,

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like one thing on my list.

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Yeah.

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We're like a

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Amanda Paolicelli: free flowing.

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Katie Hornsby: Exactly.

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Amanda Paolicelli: Mm-hmm.

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Katie Hornsby: Iterating.

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We're iterating on this

list, point blank and period.

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And like one of the things on my

list is like, I want a bathtub.

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I want a big bathtub in.

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Okay, wait, I love that.

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For you.

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The house that I have one day and like.

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So like it's the tiniest

little thing on that list.

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But then there's like huge things

like I wanna get married and

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have two kids with my boyfriend.

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Like I want to go on a

South Southeast Asia trip.

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Like I wanna learn how to surf better.

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I would love to climb a mountain.

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And so like it's the tiniest little things

all the way up to like the biggest things.

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And yeah, again, this reminder

of like, it can change over time.

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Like I've scratched things off the list.

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I'm like, well, I thought

I wanted to do that.

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I.

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Now I know I don't wanna do that.

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And yeah, so again, just kind of like.

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You can't just kind of keep going,

like you gotta figure out where

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you wanna go, you gotta have a

little bit of a direction, but not

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being too hard on yourself either.

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Amanda Paolicelli: And I, I think

that is rooted all in confident

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decision making, you know?

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And I think when it comes to like choosing

the right path for you, yes it is small

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actions, building up that momentum.

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But that doesn't take

away how daunting it is.

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It doesn't take away how scary it is.

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So what has helped you be

confident your decision making

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skills when it comes to that.

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And I'm taking notes for myself.

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Yes.

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So if you wanna like,

share, that'd be great.

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Katie Hornsby: I will.

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I'll lay it on thick.

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Um, period.

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I think everyone always says it,

but it's like fake it till you

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make it, but like, that is so true.

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Oh yes.

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I live by that.

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I live by that.

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You, yes, you have, you have to

fake it till you make it and like.

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Whatever you tell yourself, like

you are, like if you wanna be a

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bad bitch, like you're a bad bitch.

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If you wanna be a girl

boss, you're a girl boss.

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If you wanna be a or like

a period, yes, a mom.

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Be a mom.

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Like it's whoever you tell

yourself is who you can be.

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And so keeping like, keeping that

in mind, but I also think that

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I am confident in my decisions.

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Because I know I'm, I'm grounded

in what I mentioned earlier

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of like, I can always change.

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Yeah.

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And I think often again, like a lot of

us keep ourselves from being competent

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or like making quick decisions because

we're like, oh my God, this could change

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my life and it could never go back.

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And yes,

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Amanda Paolicelli: it's like the fear

of the unknown is really debilitating,

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Katie Hornsby: you know?

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Exactly.

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And I'm like, okay, like.

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We can just return back

to square one and mm-hmm.

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I think a lot of people think returning

to like ground zero is failure.

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Amanda Paolicelli: I was literally just

thinking that Katie, oh my God, and

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Katie Hornsby: it's not.

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Yes, yes.

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It's ab.

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Mm-hmm.

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It's absolutely not.

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It is.

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I look at it as like, okay, I

get to start fresh like this.

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Whether it's, I don't know, like you're

working on a work presentation and

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they're like, oh, this isn't going the

right way, or you move somewhere, or,

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I don't know, you dye your hair pink.

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: 00:15:10

Yeah, start from the beginning, beginning,

even go back and like that's a whole new

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opportunity to like start fresh recreate.

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: 00:15:18

Like that presentation could look

nothing like it did the first time.

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: 00:15:22

Exactly.

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And you've got that

freedom to make it now.

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: 00:15:26

Whatever you want it to be.

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: 00:15:29

Amanda Paolicelli: Exactly.

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: 00:15:30

Exactly.

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: 00:15:31

And it's rooted in that mindset shift of

seeing it in that positive lens, which I

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think goes back to what you mentioned like

way earlier on in our tea time session,

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: 00:15:41

which is rooting it in that gratitude,

rooting it in that positivity and allowing

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yourself to literally just embody that

and see that in every avenue and every

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: 00:15:52

door that opens for you in your life.

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Katie Hornsby: Exactly.

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And.

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: 00:15:56

I think one thing I've also had a

lot of conversations with my friends

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about in the last couple years too.

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: 00:16:03

And like I, a little over a

year ago I moved to New York.

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Mm-hmm.

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: 00:16:07

And I thought I was probably maybe

always gonna one day find myself here.

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But yeah, I wasn't sure when, um, and

you know, I think it's this idea of

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like, oh, do we move, do we not move?

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Like it was a big conversation that

I had, you know, with my, with my

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boyfriend, with my partner, and.

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: 00:16:26

I often go, I often refer to this idea

of like, you can leave your hometown,

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which Chicago was his, is his hometown.

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: 00:16:35

Okay.

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: 00:16:35

Go to a different city.

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If you don't like it,

you can always move home.

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: 00:16:39

There's nothing wrong with moving

home, but in 10 years from now, if

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you had never moved to New York,

you can't be like, oh yeah, like.

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Wow.

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: 00:16:50

I really wish I would've

just moved to New York.

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: 00:16:53

Yeah.

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: 00:16:53

Because

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Amanda Paolicelli: then you

would've never, you would've never

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known what could have happened.

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: 00:16:56

Like that could have been the step for

you to change your entire life and like

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live that life that you've always wanted.

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: 00:17:03

Right.

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: 00:17:03

Katie Hornsby: And again,

you're not stepping back.

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You're, you're actually like gain yourself

time of not wasting all that time thinking

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about what if, like just go do it.

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Confident and I.

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: 00:17:19

It's like even in the worst

scenarios, you're learning something.

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: 00:17:23

Oh yeah, no.

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Yep.

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: 00:17:25

Mm-hmm.

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Amanda Paolicelli: Retweet that.

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: 00:17:27

Re tweet the actual foundation

of Dare to Be Iconic.

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: 00:17:30

What?

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: 00:17:32

Katie Hornsby: You might not

think you're learning anything.

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: 00:17:36

You're like, yeah, I've

got this bad manager.

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: 00:17:39

You know?

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And my mom has always said like.

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It's not a bad manager.

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: 00:17:44

It's a manager that's teaching you

how you don't wanna manage people.

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: 00:17:48

Amanda Paolicelli: Okay.

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: 00:17:49

Wait, mama katie knows what's up.

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: 00:17:52

Oh, she,

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: 00:17:52

Katie Hornsby: yeah,

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Amanda Paolicelli: she an icon.

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: 00:17:53

She's been around the block.

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: 00:17:54

Katie Hornsby: She knows what's up.

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So yeah, I just think like, oh my God.

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Yeah, it's okay.

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: 00:18:02

Like to experiment, be confident, and also

be confident in saying that did not work.

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: 00:18:07

Mm-hmm.

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: 00:18:08

Let's start over and no matter

what, you've learned something

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: 00:18:12

about yourself or about the

situation or about the world that.

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: 00:18:17

You didn't know before you tried

and you were just confident.

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: 00:18:20

Amanda Paolicelli: Yes.

405

: 00:18:20

Yes.

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: 00:18:21

And it's like all with trusting

that process that you are exactly

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: 00:18:24

where you are supposed to be.

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: 00:18:26

And I think this's just beautifully

segues into Katie night because

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it's you owning your power, right?

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: 00:18:34

When you are confident in your

decision making and you're confident

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: 00:18:38

in trusting the process of everything

that is going on, and it's you

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: 00:18:42

know, creating some time for you.

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: 00:18:44

And so I've stolen this

from you quite a bit, Katie.

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: 00:18:48

Um, I've, I made my Amanda nights.

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: 00:18:49

I had one yesterday actually.

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: 00:18:51

It was beautiful.

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: 00:18:52

So for the radiant icons who were

like, what the heck is a Katie night?

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: 00:18:56

What is a Katie night?

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: 00:18:57

What does your typical

Katie night look like?

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: 00:18:59

And what are your tips and tricks

on how they can make their own

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: 00:19:03

iconic night for themselves?

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: 00:19:06

Absolutely.

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: 00:19:07

Katie Hornsby: So if we're, if I'm

explaining a dream, Katie night

424

: 00:19:11

to you and not every Katie night.

425

: 00:19:12

Yes.

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: 00:19:13

Not every got picture.

427

: 00:19:14

Yeah.

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: 00:19:15

Not every Katie night looks like this.

429

: 00:19:17

Sometimes you just gotta take

one or two pieces of the dream.

430

: 00:19:19

Exactly.

431

: 00:19:20

Exactly.

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: 00:19:20

Of the dream.

433

: 00:19:21

Katie Knight.

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: 00:19:21

But it would be.

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: 00:19:23

I go to a yoga class,

436

: 00:19:25

Amanda Paolicelli: okay?

437

: 00:19:25

Katie Hornsby: I get all

the tension outta my body.

438

: 00:19:27

I'm like stretching myself out.

439

: 00:19:29

I'm clearing my mind it.

440

: 00:19:30

I'm reminding myself, love it.

441

: 00:19:31

Remind myself how powerful I am, and

then I'm coming home and I am getting

442

: 00:19:36

in the bubble bath with a snack,

usually my iPad, to like watch a movie.

443

: 00:19:43

Or read Fourth

444

: 00:19:44

Amanda Paolicelli: Wing,

445

: 00:19:45

Katie Hornsby: you know,

or read Fourth Wing.

446

: 00:19:46

Yeah.

447

: 00:19:46

You know me well, I know you

still laugh, you know Me too Well.

448

: 00:19:50

Uh, and then a journal and a

pen, just because like you never

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: 00:19:55

know when you're not as Exactly.

450

: 00:19:57

Oh, and then it's usually

like hair mask, face mask.

451

: 00:20:02

We're bubble bathing.

452

: 00:20:03

If I've got the energy, maybe we're

shaving our legs, maybe we're not.

453

: 00:20:07

It's like that's always one that's like, I

454

: 00:20:09

Amanda Paolicelli: don't know

if I wanna put that on the list.

455

: 00:20:11

'cause that's actually work.

456

: 00:20:12

You

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: 00:20:12

Katie Hornsby: know what I mean?

458

: 00:20:13

But you know, sometimes you're

like, oh, I just need like a reset.

459

: 00:20:17

Exactly.

460

: 00:20:18

I need to wash my hair, shave my legs.

461

: 00:20:20

Yeah.

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: 00:20:21

Yeah.

463

: 00:20:21

You need a everything shower.

464

: 00:20:22

You know I love a good everything shower.

465

: 00:20:25

Yeah,

466

: 00:20:25

Amanda Paolicelli: yeah, yeah.

467

: 00:20:26

Katie Hornsby: And I, you know, when

John first met me, my boyfriend,

468

: 00:20:31

he was like everything all at once.

469

: 00:20:33

Like, you can't just do.

470

: 00:20:35

One thing and I'm like, no, I can't.

471

: 00:20:37

No.

472

: 00:20:38

That's not

473

: 00:20:38

Amanda Paolicelli: how our brains work

as small business owners, absolutely not.

474

: 00:20:42

Have you met us?

475

: 00:20:42

And so like half right,

476

: 00:20:43

Katie Hornsby: and so half the time

I'm not even like watching the TV

477

: 00:20:46

show or the movie I put on because

I'm like sitting in my thoughts.

478

: 00:20:51

I really just need like

sound in the background.

479

: 00:20:54

Yeah.

480

: 00:20:54

Like this side of the brain has like white

481

: 00:20:55

Amanda Paolicelli: noise, you

482

: 00:20:56

Katie Hornsby: know?

483

: 00:20:56

Yeah.

484

: 00:20:57

This side of the brain has

to be distracted so this

485

: 00:20:59

side of the brain can like.

486

: 00:21:01

Do what it needs to do.

487

: 00:21:02

Do, yeah.

488

: 00:21:03

Do what it needs to do.

489

: 00:21:05

And most of that is like sitting

with myself and thinking about,

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: 00:21:11

you know, how did this week go?

491

: 00:21:12

How did.

492

: 00:21:13

How do I want next week to go?

493

: 00:21:15

Yes.

494

: 00:21:16

It's almost like, like to relate

it to like, uh, you know, work.

495

: 00:21:20

We all have like performance meetings

or like Oh yeah, like performance

496

: 00:21:24

Amanda Paolicelli: evaluations.

497

: 00:21:25

Yeah.

498

: 00:21:25

Yeah.

499

: 00:21:26

And like,

500

: 00:21:26

Katie Hornsby: okay,

what are your strengths?

501

: 00:21:27

What are your weaknesses?

502

: 00:21:28

This is what you've been doing well, this

is what you've not maybe been doing so

503

: 00:21:33

well, but is something you can work on.

504

: 00:21:36

Amanda Paolicelli: Mm-hmm.

505

: 00:21:37

Uh,

506

: 00:21:37

Katie Hornsby: and again, it's just

like a, it's a check-in and I'm sure

507

: 00:21:40

you'll probably hear me say this a few

more times in this episode, but like.

508

: 00:21:44

Just sitting, first of all,

I'll say this, allowing yourself

509

: 00:21:48

to feel the emotions you feel.

510

: 00:21:50

I feel like a lot of times

we don't let ourselves

511

: 00:21:54

Amanda Paolicelli: Yes.

512

: 00:21:54

Feel what we wanna, you

have to feel everything.

513

: 00:21:58

Yes.

514

: 00:21:58

That's everything.

515

: 00:21:58

And it's, it's hard.

516

: 00:22:00

It's horrible

517

: 00:22:00

Katie Hornsby: sometimes.

518

: 00:22:01

Amanda Paolicelli: Yeah.

519

: 00:22:01

It's not easy.

520

: 00:22:02

I rather not, but like it's literally

so vital in order for you to like

521

: 00:22:07

truly like live your most iconic life.

522

: 00:22:10

Katie Hornsby: Like you

just have to, you know?

523

: 00:22:12

Right.

524

: 00:22:13

And like.

525

: 00:22:14

Sitting in that anger that you might

have or that sadness or frustration

526

: 00:22:21

or even in the good emotions.

527

: 00:22:23

Yeah, the happiness, the inspired the joy.

528

: 00:22:27

Exactly.

529

: 00:22:27

The joy that's like part one is just

like, okay, let me just like sit in these.

530

: 00:22:32

And then the, which is again, all hard to

begin with, but then like the next hardest

531

: 00:22:38

thing is like, why do I feel this way?

532

: 00:22:42

That's

533

: 00:22:42

Amanda Paolicelli: self-awareness.

534

: 00:22:44

You know?

535

: 00:22:45

That's always a tricky part.

536

: 00:22:46

Yeah.

537

: 00:22:47

No one, no one likes that.

538

: 00:22:48

Or like holding yourself

accountable for maybe Like what?

539

: 00:22:52

Like if you are angry.

540

: 00:22:53

If you were sad, right.

541

: 00:22:54

And there's something that happened, like

is there a part of it of like that you

542

: 00:22:58

can hold responsibility for, you know?

543

: 00:23:01

Absolutely.

544

: 00:23:01

Like if it was a friendship

breakup, a romantic breakup, like.

545

: 00:23:04

What was your part in it?

546

: 00:23:06

Like no one wants to own up to it, but

like sometimes we have to, you know?

547

: 00:23:09

Right.

548

: 00:23:10

Absolutely.

549

: 00:23:10

Not even sometimes.

550

: 00:23:11

Absolutely.

551

: 00:23:11

We just

552

: 00:23:11

Katie Hornsby: have to.

553

: 00:23:12

We just have to And like giving

yourself grace, I think something, yes.

554

: 00:23:19

You and I have also chatted about a

lot, literally everything under the sun.

555

: 00:23:24

Yes.

556

: 00:23:25

Yes.

557

: 00:23:25

Is this idea of I am my own best friend.

558

: 00:23:31

And yeah, when people are like,

oh, who's your best friend?

559

: 00:23:35

And I say, oh myself.

560

: 00:23:36

Like sometimes they look at

me and they're like, yeah.

561

: 00:23:38

Amanda Paolicelli: They're like, who?

562

: 00:23:39

Thank

563

: 00:23:40

Katie Hornsby: you.

564

: 00:23:40

Why you like conceited lady?

565

: 00:23:42

Like what do you mean?

566

: 00:23:44

And I'm like, okay, well, like

let me break it down for you.

567

: 00:23:47

Exactly.

568

: 00:23:48

Exactly.

569

: 00:23:49

To spend the rest of

your life with yourself.

570

: 00:23:53

Amanda Paolicelli: Exactly.

571

: 00:23:54

That is the longest long-term

relationship you genuinely

572

: 00:23:57

will ever be in, in your life.

573

: 00:24:00

Katie Hornsby: And if you don't like her

or him or whoever, like if you don't like

574

: 00:24:04

yourself, like how can others like you?

575

: 00:24:07

and I think maybe people are

like, oh my God, I don't know

576

: 00:24:09

how to be my best friend.

577

: 00:24:10

Like you figure out Yeah.

578

: 00:24:11

Like what are the steps?

579

: 00:24:12

Yeah.

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: 00:24:13

Okay, here we go.

581

: 00:24:14

You ready?

582

: 00:24:15

You gotta figure out I'm out.

583

: 00:24:16

What you like and what you don't like.

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: 00:24:18

Amanda Paolicelli: Period.

585

: 00:24:19

Katie Hornsby: That's

like the first thing.

586

: 00:24:20

Period.

587

: 00:24:20

Like period.

588

: 00:24:21

If you don't like doing

something, don't do it.

589

: 00:24:23

Um.

590

: 00:24:24

Mm-hmm.

591

: 00:24:25

Exactly.

592

: 00:24:25

Take notes of it,

593

: 00:24:26

Amanda Paolicelli: you know,

594

: 00:24:27

Katie Hornsby: take notes.

595

: 00:24:27

Notes.

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: 00:24:27

Like, I'm never doing that again.

597

: 00:24:28

Never in my life, you know,

never doing that again.

598

: 00:24:31

I think the other part is

spending time with yourself alone.

599

: 00:24:36

Yes.

600

: 00:24:36

Like literally

601

: 00:24:37

Amanda Paolicelli: just being by

yourself and having solo dates, you know?

602

: 00:24:41

Katie Hornsby: Yeah.

603

: 00:24:42

Yes, exactly.

604

: 00:24:42

Like I used to take myself

to the movies once a week.

605

: 00:24:45

Amanda Paolicelli: I.

606

: 00:24:45

I love that for you.

607

: 00:24:46

Katie Hornsby: Like find what

you love and do it and challenge

608

: 00:24:50

yourself to do it by yourself.

609

: 00:24:51

Maybe the first time you know, you

bring a friend, but then like you've

610

: 00:24:55

gotta take yourself and you've gotta

be okay and be confident being alone

611

: 00:25:02

and like I was alone for a long time,

and I'm not saying like alone, like

612

: 00:25:05

I had my friends, I had my family.

613

: 00:25:08

I had my work community,

like I had people around me.

614

: 00:25:11

Yum.

615

: 00:25:11

And not to get two therapists on

all of you, but there are four.

616

: 00:25:16

Amanda Paolicelli: Don't worry.

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: 00:25:17

The radiant icons are used to it.

618

: 00:25:18

I cry like literally every single episode.

619

: 00:25:20

Katie, we all know this.

620

: 00:25:21

It's okay.

621

: 00:25:22

It's okay.

622

: 00:25:22

Katie Hornsby: Good.

623

: 00:25:22

Okay, good.

624

: 00:25:23

So if you don't know, there

are four kinds of loneliness.

625

: 00:25:28

There's like three, and then like

the fourth one is like the like.

626

: 00:25:32

We've now entered the lower levels

of therapy and like I'm giving you

627

: 00:25:36

one of the keys to life Really?

628

: 00:25:38

Okay.

629

: 00:25:38

So the one of 'em is friends

and family, like if you know.

630

: 00:25:43

Yeah.

631

: 00:25:44

Okay.

632

: 00:25:44

Lonely if you don't

have friends and family.

633

: 00:25:47

The second one is community, uh,

whether that's like community one,

634

: 00:25:51

community, whatever it might be.

635

: 00:25:54

Radiant

636

: 00:25:54

Amanda Paolicelli: icon, community icon.

637

: 00:25:56

Yes.

638

: 00:25:56

Katie Hornsby: Thank you.

639

: 00:25:57

The third one is romantic.

640

: 00:26:01

Okay.

641

: 00:26:01

Connection.

642

: 00:26:02

And then the fourth one, which

is like the key is yourself.

643

: 00:26:07

And so,

644

: 00:26:08

Amanda Paolicelli: oh

645

: 00:26:09

Katie Hornsby: yeah, like,

and again, that's like,

646

: 00:26:12

Amanda Paolicelli: I

had no idea about that.

647

: 00:26:13

Katie Hornsby: One of the

hidden, hidden prophecies.

648

: 00:26:16

I guess if there is,

649

: 00:26:18

Amanda Paolicelli: like, I love

650

: 00:26:19

Katie Hornsby: that you can feel

full in those first three ones, but

651

: 00:26:23

if you don't feel full in yourself.

652

: 00:26:29

You know, whether that's as your best

friend or as like, oh, we're acquaintances

653

: 00:26:33

and we're working our way to best friends.

654

: 00:26:35

Like, you've gotta be okay being

by yourself and being good with

655

: 00:26:40

you and not feeling lonely.

656

: 00:26:43

Because if, imagine if you

didn't have any of those four.

657

: 00:26:46

Oh my goodness.

658

: 00:26:47

Exactly.

659

: 00:26:48

That would be, that would be so hard.

660

: 00:26:49

And like I've been there, like, and those

four can change throughout life, like.

661

: 00:26:55

I, I was alone for a long time by myself.

662

: 00:26:57

I was learning to feel good in myself,

my community, my friends, my family.

663

: 00:27:03

And then I was like, oh my gosh.

664

: 00:27:04

Like, okay, why do I still feel lonely?

665

: 00:27:06

I'm like, oh, well it might be time

to like put yourself out there again.

666

: 00:27:10

And so I was like, okay, let's do it.

667

: 00:27:12

And then I met the love of my life and

like, I think that happened because I was

668

: 00:27:18

so good in those other three areas, like

you've gotta be so good with yourself

669

: 00:27:24

before you give yourself to anyone else.

670

: 00:27:26

Whether that's romantically, whether

that's platonically, natively.

671

: 00:27:29

Exactly.

672

: 00:27:30

Platonically.

673

: 00:27:32

Even like giving my business part of

myself, like I gotta be good here.

674

: 00:27:36

Amanda Paolicelli: Yes.

675

: 00:27:38

Katie Hornsby: There.

676

: 00:27:39

Amanda Paolicelli: I have no words other

than everything just like clicks when you

677

: 00:27:43

say that because it's so true, like you

can feel so fulfilled with being your own

678

: 00:27:48

best friend or having your family around

you or having your friendships, but like

679

: 00:27:52

in my case, right, I, I don't think it's

a surprise to anyone that I'm saying this,

680

: 00:27:56

but like currently, obviously there's no

romantic prospects and I'm not putting

681

: 00:28:02

myself out there for that 'cause just for

me like that is not not something I want

682

: 00:28:07

to do and like there is a part of me, oh

wow, I've never spoken about this before.

683

: 00:28:13

There is a part of me and that does

feel a little bit lonely in that aspect.

684

: 00:28:16

When I see everyone like with their

partner or like talking about love

685

: 00:28:19

in that way, like I think that's

so beautiful and I would love to

686

: 00:28:22

experience falling in love again.

687

: 00:28:25

I know at this point, it's not

something for me right now, but it

688

: 00:28:29

doesn't take away the loneliness

that I feel in that category of

689

: 00:28:33

my life, even though I'm fulfilled

in all the other areas, you know?

690

: 00:28:37

Katie Hornsby: Yeah.

691

: 00:28:38

And it's hard and like knowing when

you're ready, when you're not ready.

692

: 00:28:42

Like it, it's scary.

693

: 00:28:45

Uh, so yeah.

694

: 00:28:46

And there's no rush either.

695

: 00:28:47

Like there's plenty of time.

696

: 00:28:49

I know I'm still getting

697

: 00:28:50

Amanda Paolicelli: hotter by the minute.

698

: 00:28:52

Katie Hornsby: No, no, you are, as you

get older, you get hotter, like thank you.

699

: 00:28:55

You're more mature.

700

: 00:28:56

You, you know, you know

what's right from wrong.

701

: 00:28:59

Exactly, exactly.

702

: 00:29:00

One thing, one thing I missed about

being your best friend, which tell me,

703

: 00:29:05

I wanna make sure I get this in because

when I said it to John that like, whoa.

704

: 00:29:10

Um, and I mentioned it earlier, but

like, I've been giving myself a lot more

705

: 00:29:14

grace and patience and I think that's,

as you get older, you just, like, you're

706

: 00:29:19

more calm, you're chiller, maybe, for

lack of a better word, you're more

707

: 00:29:23

Amanda Paolicelli: willing

to do that for yourself.

708

: 00:29:25

Katie Hornsby: Yes.

709

: 00:29:26

Amanda Paolicelli: Mm-hmm.

710

: 00:29:27

Katie Hornsby: I know a lot of women deal

with insecurity, like self insecurity,

711

: 00:29:34

and I think part of being your best friend

is really just being kind to yourself

712

: 00:29:42

and thinking about how maybe some of

the things you say to yourself, would

713

: 00:29:47

you ever say that to your best friend?

714

: 00:29:50

Amanda Paolicelli: Yeah.

715

: 00:29:50

Oh my God.

716

: 00:29:50

Period.

717

: 00:29:51

That's like one of my biggest like

confidence tips is think about like, would

718

: 00:29:55

you ever say this to your best friend?

719

: 00:29:57

If you wouldn't, do not say

that to yourself because you

720

: 00:30:01

are your best friend too.

721

: 00:30:02

Katie Hornsby: You know?

722

: 00:30:02

Absolutely.

723

: 00:30:03

Or even like, you know, your daughter,

like think about your future daughter.

724

: 00:30:07

Like would you ever say

that to, or would you ever

725

: 00:30:10

Amanda Paolicelli: want her

to think that about herself?

726

: 00:30:12

Exactly.

727

: 00:30:13

And you know.

728

: 00:30:14

Katie Hornsby: Well, there is so much.

729

: 00:30:16

We got so much stuff to do.

730

: 00:30:17

Us women, like we are busy.

731

: 00:30:19

We are holding down the

fort on a lot of areas.

732

: 00:30:23

Areas.

733

: 00:30:23

We really just run the world,

you know, like that's scary.

734

: 00:30:25

We run the world.

735

: 00:30:27

Amanda Paolicelli: We basically run,

736

: 00:30:28

Katie Hornsby: and life is too

short to stand in the mirror

737

: 00:30:31

and pick yourself apart.

738

: 00:30:33

Amanda Paolicelli: Mm-hmm.

739

: 00:30:34

Katie Hornsby: Like look at yourself in

the mirror, let yourself know you are

740

: 00:30:37

beautiful because you are inside and out.

741

: 00:30:40

And then like we gotta go

because we got stuff to do.

742

: 00:30:43

Like we gotta Exactly.

743

: 00:30:44

We have

744

: 00:30:44

Amanda Paolicelli: businesses to

build, we have money to make, we have,

745

: 00:30:49

we gotta start revolution, you know?

746

: 00:30:50

Exactly.

747

: 00:30:51

Thank you.

748

: 00:30:51

I forgot my third thing in there.

749

: 00:30:53

I love threes, as you can tell.

750

: 00:30:55

Yes.

751

: 00:30:56

Katie Hornsby: Like we don't have

time to be tearing ourselves.

752

: 00:31:00

Here's my plug too, or others,

specifically women down.

753

: 00:31:05

We don't, don't have

754

: 00:31:06

Amanda Paolicelli: time.

755

: 00:31:07

We're all here to empower each other.

756

: 00:31:09

Absolutely.

757

: 00:31:10

That's how we build revolutions.

758

: 00:31:12

That's how we break barriers.

759

: 00:31:13

That's how we shift the

narrative, you know?

760

: 00:31:16

Men tear us down.

761

: 00:31:18

Like it is their job.

762

: 00:31:20

Exactly.

763

: 00:31:20

Like the world loves to hate women.

764

: 00:31:22

I'm like, honestly, so like

firm in that belief, you know?

765

: 00:31:25

Why are, why are we

gonna turn on each other?

766

: 00:31:28

Katie Hornsby: Right?

767

: 00:31:28

Yeah, exactly.

768

: 00:31:29

The last thing we have time for is

us being mean to each other, like

769

: 00:31:32

Amanda Paolicelli: mm-hmm.

770

: 00:31:33

Katie Hornsby: Let's move on.

771

: 00:31:34

Amanda Paolicelli: Exactly.

772

: 00:31:35

Let's move on 'cause that's why

female friendships are so important.

773

: 00:31:40

Katie Hornsby: Absolutely.

774

: 00:31:41

So.

775

: 00:31:42

Amanda Paolicelli: That goes into

my last question for you, Katie.

776

: 00:31:45

If you could go back in time and

tell Katie from when she first

777

: 00:31:49

started her business, rice Tips,

the best manicure brand out there.

778

: 00:31:54

Go check it out in my show notes.

779

: 00:31:56

Yeah.

780

: 00:31:56

Thank you so much.

781

: 00:31:58

Um, what would you tell her?

782

: 00:32:01

Katie Hornsby: Oh, ooh, hmm.

783

: 00:32:05

I think something.

784

: 00:32:08

I would tell myself maybe, maybe a

little earlier than starting race tips.

785

: 00:32:13

I don't know.

786

: 00:32:14

Amanda Paolicelli: Okay.

787

: 00:32:14

I'm down for you.

788

: 00:32:15

Yeah, I dunno.

789

: 00:32:15

Whatever.

790

: 00:32:16

I didn't know an exact period.

791

: 00:32:17

Yeah.

792

: 00:32:17

Because usually for me in my

life, I always go, what would

793

: 00:32:19

you tell 19-year-old Amanda?

794

: 00:32:21

'cause that's when really

like shit hit the fan for me.

795

: 00:32:23

Mm-hmm.

796

: 00:32:23

But whatever time in your life that

was like so pivotal where you saw that

797

: 00:32:27

transformation, what would you tell her?

798

: 00:32:31

Katie Hornsby: Ooh.

799

: 00:32:33

I think something that I've always been.

800

: 00:32:36

Pretty good at, I think

everyone has like a superpower.

801

: 00:32:39

Yes.

802

: 00:32:40

Whether you know what

your superpower is or not.

803

: 00:32:42

Mm-hmm.

804

: 00:32:43

Is, um, my ability to like just

be chill about things like.

805

: 00:32:48

Everything's fine.

806

: 00:32:49

Amanda Paolicelli: I'm so like that

is the most admirable trait about you.

807

: 00:32:53

I think like when we first became friends,

I was like, damn, this girl is so cool.

808

: 00:32:57

She's so chill.

809

: 00:32:58

Thank you.

810

: 00:32:59

Like, yes.

811

: 00:33:00

I love that you said

812

: 00:33:01

Katie Hornsby: that

there's no need to stress.

813

: 00:33:03

And I think as I've gotten older,

I've become even more chill.

814

: 00:33:08

And so if I could tell my younger

self, something, it would be maybe

815

: 00:33:14

to embrace that faster or earlier.

816

: 00:33:18

Mm.

817

: 00:33:18

Um, think like leaning into it more.

818

: 00:33:21

Yeah.

819

: 00:33:21

Like lean into it.

820

: 00:33:22

Because I feel like maybe when I was a

little younger, like maybe this is more

821

: 00:33:26

like college, early adult, I think, you

know, you're comparing yourself to others.

822

: 00:33:32

It was also covid and to like,

things were weird then too, but a

823

: 00:33:35

Amanda Paolicelli: weird time.

824

: 00:33:36

Like a

825

: 00:33:36

Katie Hornsby: weird time where weird.

826

: 00:33:37

Amanda Paolicelli: Mm-hmm.

827

: 00:33:38

Katie Hornsby: But it's

like, it's gonna be fine.

828

: 00:33:40

Like everything's cool.

829

: 00:33:42

It's gonna be chill.

830

: 00:33:43

Embrace that.

831

: 00:33:45

And like, I think, I wish I would've owned

that as my superpower earlier in life.

832

: 00:33:50

Mm-hmm.

833

: 00:33:50

That's a, that's a good

way to kind of phrase it.

834

: 00:33:53

Um, because yeah, it's all gonna be

fine and if it's not, I'm sure it's

835

: 00:34:01

going to be in at least some way, or

you've learned something about yourself

836

: 00:34:04

again, the universe, you figured it out.

837

: 00:34:08

Amanda Paolicelli: What is your iconic

insight for the Radiant icon community?

838

: 00:34:12

Katie Hornsby: Loving yourself more.

839

: 00:34:13

Like think about how much

you love Lando Norris.

840

: 00:34:16

Yes.

841

: 00:34:18

Or think about how much

I love Lewis Hamilton.

842

: 00:34:21

No, I'm serious for a second.

843

: 00:34:22

Okay.

844

: 00:34:23

Period.

845

: 00:34:23

I'm locked in.

846

: 00:34:24

You better love yourself

more than you love 'em.

847

: 00:34:27

I do.

848

: 00:34:27

I

849

: 00:34:28

Amanda Paolicelli: do

850

: 00:34:28

Katie Hornsby: love myself

more than I love Lando Norris.

851

: 00:34:32

But you know, think about, think

about the things you love in

852

: 00:34:35

life and like you better love

yourself more than you love 'em.

853

: 00:34:39

So,

854

: 00:34:40

Amanda Paolicelli: katie, this

was such a good tea time sash.

855

: 00:34:44

I am so happy that you

came on Dare to be iconic.

856

: 00:34:46

It was about time.

857

: 00:34:48

I'm so grateful to have you in my

life and for our friendship, and I

858

: 00:34:51

still look back at that DM I sent

you about the Spanish Grand Prix.

859

: 00:34:55

Yeah, I took a screenshot of it.

860

: 00:34:56

Oh my gosh.

861

: 00:34:57

Mm-hmm.

862

: 00:34:58

I sounded so weird, didn't I?

863

: 00:35:00

I was like, hi, you.

864

: 00:35:01

Hi Katie.

865

: 00:35:02

I would see if you would

wanna do a partnership.

866

: 00:35:05

I'm going to Spanish Grand Prix,

and these are my engagement rates.

867

: 00:35:09

I would love to chat.

868

: 00:35:11

Katie Hornsby: And I'm pretty sure, I

have no idea what I said, but I'm pretty

869

: 00:35:13

sure like you said, yes, absolutely.

870

: 00:35:17

Amanda Paolicelli: I just like look at it

and I laugh because I'm like, oh my God.

871

: 00:35:21

To see how it started

to now where we are now.

872

: 00:35:24

It's like, I know.

873

: 00:35:25

So, oh my God.

874

: 00:35:26

But I'm so grateful for

you and for our friendship.

875

: 00:35:29

Absolutely.

876

: 00:35:29

And yeah.

877

: 00:35:30

I

878

: 00:35:31

Katie Hornsby: thank you.

879

: 00:35:31

I'm so grateful for you and I

I think back to our first call

880

: 00:35:35

when we like got on the phone and

881

: 00:35:37

Amanda Paolicelli: oh my

God, I think we talked

882

: 00:35:38

Katie Hornsby: for like three hours

and we were like, oh, absolutely.

883

: 00:35:41

We definitely talked more.

884

: 00:35:43

Yeah.

885

: 00:35:43

It just feels like we knew each

other from the beginning and yeah.

886

: 00:35:48

Shoot your shot, shoot, remember, no.

887

: 00:35:51

Period.

888

: 00:35:51

You might find a best friend,

889

: 00:35:52

Amanda Paolicelli: period.

890

: 00:35:53

No, genuinely.

891

: 00:35:55

Genuinely.

892

: 00:35:55

'cause I don't, if I didn't

reach out to Katie, I don't know

893

: 00:35:59

how our paths would've crossed.

894

: 00:36:01

I feel like eventually we would've,

'cause we're both in that F1 and we're

895

: 00:36:05

in our own small businesses, you know?

896

: 00:36:07

But yeah, no, it's, it's kind of weird

to think like, it literally was just

897

: 00:36:11

me shooting a shot and I was so scared.

898

: 00:36:12

I've never told you this, so

I'm gonna say it now on air.

899

: 00:36:15

I was so scared to DM you.

900

: 00:36:17

I was so scared.

901

: 00:36:18

I was like, oh my God.

902

: 00:36:19

Like, I hope she doesn't think I'm,

I was like talking myself out of it.

903

: 00:36:23

Mm-hmm.

904

: 00:36:24

But it was the best DM I've

ever sent in my entire life.

905

: 00:36:28

So I got the best friendship of my life.

906

: 00:36:30

So thank you

907

: 00:36:31

Katie Hornsby: to you and to

whoever else is listening.

908

: 00:36:34

Like you can shoot your shot

with me anytime you want.

909

: 00:36:38

Good, he said, slide into my dm.

910

: 00:36:40

I said, slide into my dms.

911

: 00:36:42

Like, oh, you wanna share race tips?

912

: 00:36:44

Absolutely.

913

: 00:36:45

You wanna talk of one?

914

: 00:36:46

Absolutely.

915

: 00:36:47

Slowly shoot your shot.

916

: 00:36:49

And that can be, again, not just

with me, shoot your shot with anyone.

917

: 00:36:51

You never know what

you're gonna get from it.

918

: 00:36:54

Yeah.

919

: 00:36:54

What's the worst that happens?

920

: 00:36:55

They say no, they don't respond.

921

: 00:36:57

Amanda Paolicelli: And literally

my dad says that all the time.

922

: 00:36:59

They say no.

923

: 00:37:00

Okay.

924

: 00:37:00

And that's their loss period.

925

: 00:37:01

Yeah.

926

: 00:37:02

So if you ever need someone to shoot your

shot with, slide into Katie and I's dms.

927

: 00:37:14

All right, radiant icons.

928

: 00:37:15

That is your Tea Time session for today.

929

: 00:37:17

I hope you enjoyed today's episode.

930

: 00:37:19

If you did, make sure to subscribe,

to leave a comment, to leave a review,

931

: 00:37:23

to tell your friends about us, to

tell everyone and anyone, because

932

: 00:37:26

you know we love more radiant icons

in our iconic community of ours.

933

: 00:37:31

Thank you so much, Katie, for coming on

Dare To Be Iconic and being just a dare to

934

: 00:37:36

be iconic supporter, a long-term partner.

935

: 00:37:38

I am so incredibly grateful for your

friendship, Katie, and I just wanna

936

: 00:37:43

stay on top of this radiant icons.

937

: 00:37:45

You really never know what's going to

happen unless you believe in yourself

938

: 00:37:50

and shoot your shot, because Katie and I

would've never crossed paths if it wasn't

939

: 00:37:56

for me sliding into her dms and shooting

my shot for a collaboration and that one

940

: 00:38:02

dm it changed my entire life and brought

me such an iconic friendship, and I am

941

: 00:38:07

just so incredibly grateful for her, her

friendship, and the chance that I took

942

: 00:38:12

on myself to just go for what I wanted.

943

: 00:38:16

So I hope this episode was your extra

dose of inspiration to go after what you

944

: 00:38:22

want, and if it means sliding into the

dms, slide into those dms Radiant icons.

945

: 00:38:27

But anyway, I will chat with

you all next week for a very,

946

: 00:38:32

very exciting tea time sesh.

947

: 00:38:33

I literally, I can't believe I am

saying this, a dream come true,

948

: 00:38:39

but my favorite Formula one romance

author, Carly Robyn, is coming

949

: 00:38:45

on The Dare to Be Iconic podcast.

950

: 00:38:46

Wow.

951

: 00:38:47

I just got chills.

952

: 00:38:48

Oh my God.

953

: 00:38:48

You guys are in for a treat.

954

: 00:38:50

Carly and I spilled the tea about

confidence, being a woman in

955

: 00:38:55

a male dominated sports space,

and writing your own story.

956

: 00:38:59

You definitely do not wanna

miss next week's tea time sesh.

957

: 00:39:02

So make sure to subscribe.

958

: 00:39:04

I will talk to you guys next week.

959

: 00:39:06

Remember radiant icons.

960

: 00:39:08

Dare to be iconic.

961

: 00:39:10

Bye.